Our Society Is Losing Its Anchors

In this conversation, the New York Times Opinion columnist Thomas L. Friedman speaks with the author Dov Seidman about the erosion of American norms, evinced by the recent trial and conviction of former President Donald Trump, and the difficulties the country faces because of that erosion.

(A full transcript of this audio essay will be available by Monday in the audio player above.)

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